MSSP_TamicaTanksley_Pt2

Michael Schweisheimer: [00:00:00] You good? Alright,

Tamica Tanksley: here we go.

Michael Schweisheimer: Speeding.

3, 2, 1. It's that time again. It is the Mission Story Slam podcast, brought to you by PWP

Video. I'm Michael Schweitzer, I'm the executive producer at PWP Video. Mission story slam, and I am someone who likes to vandalize things. Maybe not. What you think vandalizing in this case is when you stick googly eyes on objects so they look back at you and you spell it.

Vandal dash EYES. Today we are back with part two of my conversation with absolute prize hog Tamika Tanksley. She took home both the judges award and the crowd favorite at mission story slam 13. In the first part, we heard about Tamika's storytelling style and stage presence of which she has extra. We went into detail about her creative process, and Tamika also talked about her family, the importance of [00:01:00] storytelling as a tradition and the difference between storytellers and story holders.

And I really love that part about story holders. You could, I'm sure, listen to this episode without doubling back, but if you didn't hear the first, it's worth it just for that concept of story holders. So let's dive back into our conversation. So many different directions that we could go. So now just to surprise you, I'm just gonna be a total jerk.

Tamica Tanksley: Uhoh,

Michael Schweisheimer: everything in your story was so pro-level except Miss Tamika Tangly. 11 and a half minutes. Really? What happened? Come on. Like you over double that. You knew it was five. Now we didn't have a clock posted. There was no colored lamp, but damn. I thought I, I was surprised.

Tamica Tanksley: And you know why? Here's what happened.

Michael Schweisheimer: It's a good 11 and a half. Don't get me wrong.

Tamica Tanksley: You're so right. I'm going to own it. I'm going to throw myself on my own sword, and I'm going to say once I heard that, [00:02:00] um. What do they call it in school? Uh, the honor system. Oh. Oh. Once I heard, you know, Hey, it's no clock, you know, police yourself, it's no clock, you know, and then once, you know, and then I didn't go like till near the end.

So once, you know, they all were kinda going over bid and it wasn't an an, you know, man sims didn't come off and drag you off the stage, and it seemed welcomed and the audience was good. You know, it's kinda like. Hmm. You know, I, it kind of, the rules went out the door and so I kind of took a little liberty and it just felt like, and then the audience, they were, you know, yeah.

That

Michael Schweisheimer: audience

Tamica Tanksley: was motivating me and the more ha and yeah. And then it was like, I wanna give him more,

Michael Schweisheimer: just so you know, not just you, the whole room. We're bringing back some kind of a ability, some way. That storytellers will get a sense of how long they've been going. [00:03:00] We may never go back to like a red light thing again.

Mm-hmm. But we realize that we're putting everyone out there without a net. So that, 'cause when you're on that stage. If there's, you know, no clock and no indication at all, you don't know if you've been going four minutes or 14, there's just no way to, no. Yes. 'cause you're in it. Um, I am curious, I thought when you talked about getting the mud off your wings, go Birds, was that your original planned ending spot and then you went a little further?

Like, did you bring in things that you had. Cut when you were planning the story, uh, to give us more, or did you just protract things while you were enjoying the audience? Like, how, and, and by the way, I'm giving you a rough time because you were so damn good. I have to find something to give you crap about, um, or else's, not me.

Tamica Tanksley: And I, what I, I take it all in stride, you know, again,

Michael Schweisheimer: but I'm, I'm, but I'm kind of curious, like, you know, if you were planning on five to seven, like you stretched. For 11 and a half and it was great. So I'm just kind of curious where you drew that [00:04:00] from while you were on that stage. 'cause that's, that is a lot of content to give us and still have it be that tight.

Tamica Tanksley: You know, it ended where it was supposed to end. It ended with the Shamon Fear Shamon. Okay. Like that was the real ending. Gotcha. And so I think it was the extra pauses, the laughter, me laughing, the audience laughing. Um, and so. I could stretch a story, like I can stretch a

Michael Schweisheimer: story story like how can make I, by way, I love you laughing.

You talk about telling from the heart and letting us know that you're telling, like, you know, someone can laugh at their own jokes too much. But, uh, I really enjoyed the way that you were laughing while you were telling the story as a cue that you were enjoying yourself Also, like, I think that also freed up the audience to know like, yes, she's, she's having fun and making fun.

So I thought that was cool. Uh, and I do have to ask, are you using. This, um, this gift that you have so [00:05:00] unleashed, are you using it in your work at Compass Pro Bono at all or are you trying to think about how you might do that?

Tamica Tanksley: Actually, I have used it. Um, I've used it because, because it's who I am. I naturally used it from the beginning.

So we do a lot of information sessions. I connect with a lot of, uh, nonprofit leaders with, um, business leaders and business professionals. And so again, I talk in stories just naturally. And so, uh, it's very easy for me to tell the story about why we wanna support nonprofits through, um. Strategic consulting, why you, um, may wanna be interested in using your talents and time to sow seeds of service into these nonprofits.

And because, um, I have been committed, um, to, when I mentioned that toxic job [00:06:00] after that job. Um,

Michael Schweisheimer: yeah, let's be clear that toxic job is not your job at Compass. Let's just,

Tamica Tanksley: no, no, let's just clear the air. It was like two jobs ago. And, and actually I got fired on my day off, which is another story

Michael Schweisheimer: fired on your, yeah, that is gonna be a story.

Anyway, so you committed yourself, I'm sorry, to using your

Tamica Tanksley: storytelling powers. I committed myself because I believe that, um, what you do is just as important as where you do it. And so I decided that, um. Because we spend a lot of our time working. Jobs, you know, and working in our careers. Oh yeah. And so I just, I decided that I wanted to be in places that I was truly passionate about the mission and passionate about the people I will be supporting and so, sure.

Um, I'm very passionate about nonprofit organizations because they, the heart and soul of the community, they have their finger on the pulse. Yeah. Fighting on the [00:07:00] front lines, sleeves rolled up the dirt under the nails, boots on the ground, handling the myriad of issues that plague our news feed. That someone's saying, well, who's so something about this?

These nonprofit organizations. But they need resources. They need support. And so boom, here you come with these business professionals Yep. Who have that strategic mind on how to make that work. Work. And so when you connect people with the heart for, um. The heart of a thing because most nonprofits have started from painter passion.

So when you have people with the heart for the work and you connect them with those strategic minds, that's really the sweet spot. And so I use, um, my storytelling in helping to paint a picture for nonprofit organizations on why this is a good opportunity. That you should take advantage of. And I use the storytelling to paint a picture for not [00:08:00] for a business professionals who think I don't need one more thing on my list.

Michael Schweisheimer: Yeah,

Tamica Tanksley: I can't, don't donate my time to nothing else. So I use right pro bono. What? Right, right. Free. Ain't nothing for free. And so I use that to again, show them and illustrate to them, um, why this would be a good opportunity to sacrifice some time for. So yes. Um, I think I may use it a little too much. I'm often, uh, you know, um.

Color outside the lines too, when it comes to storytelling. Mm-hmm. It's like, oh, you're, you're saying too much. Um, but again, I, I just believe in the story. People respond to stories and not numbers. Sometimes we love giving facts and figures and we think that is the star, and we think that we give them a big number in the star.

And we, you know, we like to quote a lot of stats, but. The story is really the star over the stat [00:09:00] and, and that's just whatever you're doing. And if we can learn human interest stories, you hear that all the time for newspapers and magazines and people are interested in human interest stories. And I really think it is time that we reconnect a theme we've had throughout this conversation.

Connect people again back to the heart. Storytelling is just the heart of life. That's how we spoke about history earlier. That's how history, particularly in the African American communities, from Africa to now. Mm-hmm. Where stories are alive. And so you can try to erase it, whitewash it, ban it. But the one thing you can't do is take it from my heart.

And the one thing you can't do is that when I share it with. Someone else, and they share it, and they share it. That's what really keeps it alive. So stories are really the fire that ignites and unites us all. Woo. Now see, now that's off the top. Is that that

Michael Schweisheimer: That's off. Okay. Alright.

Tamica Tanksley: That's [00:10:00] off the top and that's how my mind works, Jess.

Well,

Michael Schweisheimer: we've got the recording this time.

Tamica Tanksley: Yes,

Michael Schweisheimer: you can, you can come back to this note. Um, I, I do. Look, I'm in, I'm in the storytelling business with Pwp video. We tell nonprofit stories, so I would be lying if I sat here and tried to disagree with you. I would, the only thing I would add potentially to that is I do think that, um, stories are also.

A really great way to explain not all the numbers, but like, if you've got that big impressive number, that's great, but if you can humanize it into a story, then you've really got something. And if you want someone to remember a number, give it a human face. That's when it becomes much more retainable and, and attainable and relatable, um, is when you put that, that human.

Narrative to it. So, uh,

Tamica Tanksley: ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You get the Qpi prize, [00:11:00] the cuppy Doll Prize. That is exactly right. It's kinda like with math is showing your work, the story is showing your work.

Michael Schweisheimer: Yeah.

Tamica Tanksley: Right. Like how did you get to, how did you solve for X? That's how you solve

Michael Schweisheimer: for X. Well, and then you can do it with heart.

Right? You can, you know, that whole thing you said earlier about telling people what they need to feel or you know, or as I was saying, like letting them feel it. Like if you have that story to demonstrate. You know, you can tell me you're helping, um, you know, X number of homeless people attain housing, but introduce me to someone and actually help me understand that one person's journey.

And then tell me you did that a thousand times or a hundred times. Like now my mind is gonna be like, oh my goodness, now I understand the scale of what that number means because I now can relate it to like, if there's one story that powerful and you're telling me you've done this a hundred times, 500 times a th like, now I know what that impact.

Feels like, and now I will remember that number. So

Tamica Tanksley: [00:12:00] yes. And here's the story that really helped me come to that conclusion. Um, I went to a storytelling workshop for nonprofits. The. Facilitator shared the story about her daughter selling Girl Scout cookies and how they were out all day at like, um, some hockey game trying to sell, sell these Girl Scout cookies.

They talked about the taste and what were their flavors and all the different names, and they didn't sell. But once they shared that portions of the proceeds went to support their classmate who was undergoing cancer treatments, they sold out. Oh,

Michael Schweisheimer: wow.

Tamica Tanksley: That always stuck with me and it helped to kind of validate what I had, what I thought, the value I thought stories brought to stats.

Yeah. And so when I heard that, I'm like, exactly. Like, you know how you know a thing, but you can't really, um, articulate it. That helped me to really [00:13:00] understand and articulate it. And it's like, yeah, what's. The story behind it because everybody's selling Girl Scout cookies. You go to a store, a market, blah, blah, blah.

But why so? Why should I get 'em from you?

Michael Schweisheimer: That's why I don't leave the house during Girl Scout cookie season because if they have those caramel, I, I still call 'em Samoas. I know they changed the name to Caramel. Somebody.

Tamica Tanksley: Oh, the name has changed.

Michael Schweisheimer: Uh, they changed the name. I think they, I don't know why, but, but

Tamica Tanksley: did they keep the recipe?

Michael Schweisheimer: You bet they did. 'cause man, those things are dangerous to me. Um. Listen, I wanna land this plane because I told you, you and I can talk too much and I'm enjoying the heck outta myself and could keep doing this

Tamica Tanksley: Me too.

Michael Schweisheimer: Couple last things. Um, do you think that you might bring, like thinking about mission story Slam again, do you think you might bring some of your Compass clients to future mission story slams to get the, to convert story holders to storytellers?

Does that make sense?

Tamica Tanksley: Absolutely. And you know [00:14:00] why? Because I also, so the school Kill River Greenways and that became a story because that was part of what I love to call my Compass client field trips.

Michael Schweisheimer: Okay.

Tamica Tanksley: Where I love to get behind the scenes, I love to hear the story. And so in hearing the story, um, and I had recent, um, compass.

Client field trips with today is a good day, which supports families with infants in the nicu.

Michael Schweisheimer: That's, uh, is it Martha Sharkey, is that right?

Tamica Tanksley: Yes. Shout out. Shout to Martha Sharkey.

Michael Schweisheimer: Martha's cool. She came and told a story at one of our few virtual slams. I'd love to get her on the actual stage. Martha's very cool

Tamica Tanksley: and so.

I would love to, because the thing I love the most, and I absolutely love what I do with Compass Pro Bono, and that's because I love people and so, and I love storytelling. So when I hear the stories about how these [00:15:00] nonprofit organizations came to be. It just moves and touches me in a way that is life changing, that is, um, encouraging, that's motivating.

And so I would absolutely love to bring some of these amazing people. Um, to this stage to share these amazing stories and some of our volunteers amazing. And some

Michael Schweisheimer: of our volunteers. Oh, I would love to see volunteers on stage telling a story like that's a. Because that's something I've been asking some of our nonprofits to do because I think, and I've seen it once or twice, I've seen a client that it's often nonprofit professionals and I think that like our clients and our volunteers, man, talk about someone who can actually.

Capture what you're doing without citing fact, you know, not, uh, Dave Winston often [00:16:00] says it's not a TED Talk. It's a narrative. It's a story. Yes. And, and those volunteers, man, they're there. They don't have to be there. They can be anywhere else. There is a reason they're in doing the hard work that you're doing.

And I, um, really want to hear some volunteer stories.

Tamica Tanksley: I'm on it because, let me say this, there are some volunteer stories where. What that project, what volunteering, how it has literally 360 their life. Those are stories that need to be heard. I mean from people who have led a project to. Allowing that project to inspire them to boom, start their own thing.

Wow. Um, and I mean, it's been, it is just amazing and I love being able to have a front row seat at these stories all the time. Like I absolutely love it.

Michael Schweisheimer: So I'm gonna trade answers on this one. Um, and I'm gonna go first 'cause I'm selfish. Um, [00:17:00] I was gonna, I wanna ask how you would like to see people leveraging mission story slam now that you've like, been fully engaged and seen it and seen what it's about.

But I'm gonna go first because before we hit record, you were talking about how you enjoyed or had people tell you how much they enjoyed seeing the video of your story and that, uh, people were really into that and. One of the things that's been at the heart of Mission story Slam since Dave Winston pitched the idea to me in 2018 was we really wanted, there's a lot of organizations that, um.

Maybe can't afford to do a full up production with PWP video, right? And this is a way for us to work with some smaller organizations and to give them, and larger, but to give organizations a video that they can put out there with an impactful story that they can share. Um, so my answer to how I'd like to see people leveraging mission story Slam Moore is I'd like to see more of our nonprofits.

Really don't [00:18:00] have another path to getting a good piece of video promotion using the heck outta that story video. Um, and we've had some who've done it and done it really, really well. Um, but I just wanna see that more often, like outta every slam, a couple few who are just like, boom. Like look at this asset, look at this piece of collateral.

Let's get this out on social. Let's get it out in our mailing list. So that's my. My thing. Um, I'm curious if you have some ideas of ways that you think the nonprofit community and the do-gooder community could be doing a better job leveraging Mission Story Slam now that you've found it.

Tamica Tanksley: The thing that I love the most about Mission Story Slam and the thing that I've also been sharing about out of the wins I've had, um, what makes this one, um, really.

Significant and impactful is that the prize quote, money that you won

Michael Schweisheimer: mm-hmm.

Tamica Tanksley: It [00:19:00] goes to your favorite nonprofit. And so that to me is such a double way to give back. I, it's unique. I've never heard of it before, having my. Quote, you know, the storytelling winnings go to a nonprofit and chose Well, and you gave it to the nonprofit Google River.

Yeah. Yes. I mean, and the nonprofit I chose was the nonprofit that inspired this story. It's

Michael Schweisheimer: so cool.

Tamica Tanksley: Um. Which was the nonprofit where I spent the day on the school care River with which that was a life changing thing. So that was like my gift back to them for such a priceless gift that keeps on giving to me, that experience on the water that showed me I can do, um, scary things and come out on top, like, that's priceless.

I can't put a price on it. And like you said, the do-gooders. And so to be able to do good [00:20:00] for the do-gooders because. Oftentimes it's like the saying, no goody goes unpunished. And I say that to say sometimes as a do-gooder, you feel like that the reward for doing good is to do more good. And it can be draining.

You know, you can feel unappreciated. It is draining. Yes, it's a current uphill battle. It's a fight, you know, and, and it can really tug and wear you down.

Michael Schweisheimer: Yeah.

Tamica Tanksley: So kudos to you and Dave because I think not, I think, I know this is just so amazing and an amazing way to pour back into the do-gooders into nonprofits.

And so how do we leverage it a having more. People tell stories and use this as an opportunity to bless the nonprofit organization of their choice, to bless the nonprofit community, to really create and utilize this [00:21:00] stage to uplift people who are often uplifting others.

Michael Schweisheimer: And by the way, I gotta shine a light on you because before you realized the price money wasn't going to you, you did, you did designate.

Um, school River Greenways, uh, as your nonprofit of choice for the story. And something that I try to point out to people like, you know, you work at Compass, there could have been this expectation that Compass would have to be your nonprofit of choice. Um, I always want people to know, like, you don't have to give this to your employer.

You can, even if it's your organization you founded, you can give it to any organization that you feel you wanna support right now. And I think in some ways you can shine the light on your nonprofit and. Give a check to someone else. So, um, I mean, listen, I, and we know that the, the prize level that we set of like two 50 for the judges award and 100 for the judges, uh, the crowd favorite, which all 350 this time went to Scoog River Greenways.

It's [00:22:00] not actually unintentional that the. That is, it's not a, you know, that's not gonna change any nonprofits year or month or week. Um, but it's not nothing. We wanted it to be significant enough that when, you know, I always credit when I make those donations, I make sure to reach out to that nonprofit and be like, Tamika Tanksley told this story.

Here's the link. She did this for you because of you, and you have to listen to this, and please make sure Debbie sees it. Yeah. Boy, did you give Debbie a hard time in that story?

Tamica Tanksley: Oh, she saw it. She loved it.

Michael Schweisheimer: I hope, I don't even know her, but I feel like I know her 'cause she, she's a riot. Um,

Tamica Tanksley: I told her she's a star.

Now

Michael Schweisheimer: I gotta ask this question. You've told it a number of different story slams. How, how is mission story slam different from like first person arts or the, the comedy sports story Slam you were telling me about? Was it second, second Sundays? Is that right?

Tamica Tanksley: Yes. On second Sundays mission story slam, um, does something [00:23:00] meaningful, uh, with this?

Um, you know, prize money, so to speak. And so that to me is what makes it different and what makes it unique. And it's also using your skill, again, as I said, passion and purpose. Yeah. Your passion's, what you love to do. I love telling stories, but your purpose is when, when. You, what you love to do does something for someone else.

So I love telling stories and winning that story Slam gave me an opportunity to do something for someone else. I've had people come up to me like, you know, I wanna go kayaking as a result of that story and looking into them. So it, it's like the gift that keeps on giving people are now, um, more aware of.

The nonprofits that, um, are chosen by the winner, uh, they also received the financial blessing, um, as a result of the story being, you know, told and voted on as being the winner. And so there are [00:24:00] a few winners and that that star winner is the nonprofit.

Michael Schweisheimer: Wonder or what I'm, I guess I should have been a little bit clearer.

Is the, does the audience feel different? Because I've, I've told it that one, uh, first person Art Slam with you, but does the audience feel different at Mission Story Slam than some of the other places, or is that me having wishful thinking or projecting what I want to have happen? I, I don't.

Tamica Tanksley: Um, you know, I've, the ones I've done, it's all have great energy.

I think it's too like venue. I

Michael Schweisheimer: okay

Tamica Tanksley: that with the mission story slam, like everybody's right there in your face. Yeah. And so what I loved was, um, being able to look to my right. See a laughter, look over here and see someone nodding. So I feel like you're right. It's kind of like when you score the winning touchdown and you leap into the, to the crowd.

So I feel like with Bishop's story slab, I was able to leap into the crowd and they caught me. [00:25:00] And um, and, and so also I think because it is a audience, you also connect with a specific audience as you just shared.

Michael Schweisheimer: Sure.

Tamica Tanksley: So when you're in. The company of a lot of people from the same do-gooder community.

You know, other story slams. You get people from all walks of life. But this is like a particular path of people. And so when you get. The do-gooders together is a good time. So I think that also makes it different because it's a certain demographic that's coming primarily.

Michael Schweisheimer: Oh no, almost. So, yeah, we're very clear, uh, in terms of who we reach out to and you know, who our network is inviting at this point.

'cause, and I think that's the reason we had our first sell out is 'cause now people in our community are telling other people in our community, and so that's. I really wanted to hear from you if you picked up on that, because from the, you know, being on a [00:26:00] first person arch stage, the, it's not like the audience was adversarial, but you are telling to a bunch of storytellers with their storyteller fan groups and you know, like they're, um, they may have some.

Thoughts about who they wanna see win. So I'm not saying that they're like shouting out evil heckles, but they may be a little slower to get with you or to give you that laugh or to come along and warm up. And I feel like, I don't know, I just feel like our room al, it always feels safe to me. I don't know.

Tamica Tanksley: Yes, they, I mean, I asked them, can I be vulnerable? Yeah. You know it. And so, yes, it's a safe space. You feel like you're among friends. I mean, the cheer that you get, it is like everyone in there is a friend, and there were people who I didn't know. So well coming in, but going out, we've connected. That's like I made a lot That's cool.

Of connections after that. Good. And so you make a lot of, and not connections, you make like a lot of new friends and [00:27:00] so it's kinda like a, a cheers bar. We're everybody, you know, you're there, you know, and we're not just yelling out Norm, we're yelling out Norm Tamika Atiya, you know? Um, yep. McKayla, Maggie.

Um, we

Michael Schweisheimer: had great people in the room that night. That was, it was, it was Bobby, but I mean, we had so many killer stories. So many killer stories. Yeah. It was a good night. Listen, um, this has been amazing. Here's what I wanna know. How can people find you and is there anything coming up, like, you know, let's talk about two sips of tea.

Is that, is there a difference between the two Sips of TEA podcast and the Montgomery College Radio show? Is it, are they two different shows?

Tamica Tanksley: Two different shows and, and what I love about them is, so for Montgomery, um, so it's on Mon Radio, which. Is played from Montgomery County Community College. They have their own radio station.

Super shout out [00:28:00] to Matt Porter, who's like the amazing Matt Porter, who, you know, oversees the show and so many other amazing things at, um, Montgomery County Community College. And so their theme is where music and minds meet. And so it's perfect for a storyteller. So for me, I. Love music as well because they tell a story.

And so what I love about uh, two sips of tea on my co radio is that it helps me to tell a story through music. Then the podcast is where we really kind of peel back the layers. Story and so they're different yet the same. So one has the music to help you get through your day, pop your fingers, make you reminisce, take you back, and think of where you are when you wrote that song, or even hear that song in a different light because you gotta theme with it now.

Michael Schweisheimer: I love it. [00:29:00]

Tamica Tanksley: And that's where you find your podcast, Spotify, apple, um, it's Buzz Sprout, so you can find me there to tune in. And actually, um, again, this recent story slam when it's helped me to blow the dust off and I'm in the midst of a season, but I haven't recorded since like June or July. Again, that's me hiding.

And so Christmas Day, I am going to be dropping three episodes as a Christmas present to warm everybody up for 2026 when we are going to hit the play button, we're going to get our finger off the pause button, hit play. So that's going to be starting up again. So that's super exciting with love for people to kind of catch up and get the history of two subsidy and how it came to be.

And that's just a love letter to. Uh, you know, our community. Um, and I like to call it communal therapy. 'cause what we just did right now, this was communal therapy. [00:30:00] And so there's two, well, at least for you

and

Michael Schweisheimer: me, everybody else may be, may be mad at me, but, you know, keeping up

Tamica Tanksley: totally so they can find me there more on social media, uh, as Tamika Tanksley.

And it's T-A-M-I-C-A and T-A-N-K-S-L-E-Y. So you can find me there, TikTok.

Michael Schweisheimer: Cool. We know how to find you. We know what's coming up. This has been. Way, uh, clearly from the runtime. Way too much fun. I hope you had a good time. At least hope you had half as much fun as I did. You are a riot, Tamika. I really appreciate you being

Tamica Tanksley: here.

Oh, thank you Michael. I've had an amazing time. I'm humbled and honored to. Be here with you. Uh, thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for all the love and support and the encouragement, and, uh, I appreciate you. Mission, story Slam, PWP, um, and the whole crew. So thank you so much. This has been a wonderful time.

It reminds me of a quote by [00:31:00] Confucius. Choose a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life. So this was time well spent. I love it.

Michael Schweisheimer: I'm not sure I knew that was Confucius, but Cool. That's good to know.

Tamica Tanksley: You can have that one too. Michael.

Michael Schweisheimer: Thanks again Tamika, and thanks to our audience for joining us.

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Pod is produced and brought to you by pwp Video. We are video with a mission. You can find us@pwpvideo.com. Until our next episode, sometime next year, I shall remain Michael Schweitzer and I look forward to sharing the next story behind the story with you soon.