Michael: It's time for the Mission Story Slam podcast, brought to you by PWP

Video. I'm Michael Schweisheimer. I'm the executive producer at PWP Video, Mission Story Slam, and I am spending my summer in Berlin, Germany, which is a whole other story. So we're recording this episode on July 1st, and we just had a heat wave in Europe, and now it's made its way to the US. Not my fault.

But I'm now in a cool place while my guest today is at the beginning of some stifling heat. So how are you holding up so far, Kerry?

Carey: Pretty, pretty good.

Michael: Yeah? Air conditioning's cranking?

Carey: I'm ready for it. Air conditioning's cranking, got a pool outside ready for me to dip into.

Michael: Perfect. So Kerry Seals, who's here with me today, uh, won the Energy Co-op Crowd Favorite Prize at Mission Story Slam 14, No Judgment.

And Kerry's story certainly benefited from the theme. I'm not judging, but here is Kerry's story.

Carey: All right, I'm gonna talk about, and don't judge me. I wanna talk about forgetting shit, right? So I'm getting a little older. I'm getting a little older, and I'm starting to forget shit, right? Like, whether it be my keys or get my money, right?

So I go to work. I'm having a bad day 'cause I'm forgetting shit. And I work for SEPTA's Regional Rail. And I go up to the... I, I work in the train yard. But now I'm not conducting the trains and everything. I've moved up. I'm in the yard, and I'm pulling trains in and out of the work facility, in and out of the house.

So we, we take a train, and we go in five track, and we pull out an engine, and we pull the engine outside of the house, and then we let it loose. We let it go. And I say to my buddy, John, I say, "John," he's the engineer, I'm the conductor. I said, "John, when you grabbed this train," I said, "Did it, did it have a brake on it?"

'Cause he can feel if it had a brake on it. He said, "Oh, definitely, it's got a brake on it." So we let that engine stay on five track. We move, we move the train. We go drop off two cars. We come back to the house. We go in four track. We pull something out of four track, and John over the radio says, "Kerry Come to the engine for a second."

So I go to the engine. "What's up, John?" "What's up? I wanna get this shit done." He says, "Kerry, where's the engine that we left on five track?"

And I looked on Five Jack, I said, "John, it's gone." And I'm thinking to myself, "You gotta be fucking kidding me. This is not like my, it's not like my keys or my fucking wallet." "It's a f- it's a fucking train engine." So, so I don't panic, so I switch my radio to channel nine. Channel nine is the Harrisburg channel and Amtrak channel.

So I'm switch to channel nine because at any second I'm waiting to hear, uh, "Please identify yourself. Uh, you're on a," you know. Like, the shit is getting ready to hit the fan. This, this, this engine done ran away, got out the yard- ... and is on Amtrak's territory. I'm fired, right? So ... Oh, I didn't mention it's, like, three feet of snow.

So we tr- so we tr- we trud through the snow, and I go, I go to the, uh, the, uh, the foreman of the, of the mechanical facility. His name is JJ. Weird dude, but cool dude. So I say, "JJ." I say, "JJ." He's on the phone. I said, "JJ, hang the fucking phone up," right? So he hangs the phone up, and I said, "JJ" I said 9/22 that we pulled out a five-track?

I don't know where it's at JJ falls to his knees laughing like I told him some kind of joke or something. I'm like, I said, "JJ, this is not a damn joke." I said, "The engine is gone." He was like, "Kerry, where could the engine go? It, where could it go?" I said, "JJ, it's gone." So we jump on another engine. Now, train yards, they all come to one track.

It could be, it could be 12, 15, but they all come to one t- track lead. And at that track lead is a thing called a derailment device, and that derailment device is set on, up on the rail to derail the train so it doesn't run and get out of the yard, and, and it g- gets cra- sh- uh, like strata- catastrophic. So we get this engine, and we go to the yar- we go through the yard, and I'm expecting to see this engine at the end of the yard, it hits, hitting the derail device and turned sideways.

Fine. I'm okay with that. You know, I'm gonna get disciplined, but I'm okay with that. At least it didn't leave the yard. So when we turn the corner and we're going to this derail device, there's no engine. There's no engine there. And I said, "Oh, shit, they didn't put the derail device up." So we stop the train, and I get off 'cause it's my ass.

So I get off the train, and I run through the snow, and there's a derail device, and it's there, and it's in place, supposed to do what it was supposed to do. It was supposed to deflect the train and throw it on the ground. Train's not there. So I walk to the derail device, and I get down, and I look at it.

Fucking derails device got slice marks through it. The, like, each set of wheels, so it's, there's two trucks with four a- with two a- so it's eight a- four axles, eight wheels. That derail had slice marks in it, and all damn axles went over that device and kept going. So I'm like, "Holy shit." So I turn back to channel nine, and I'm listening to Amtrak channel 'cause, you know, like, this train is getting ready to go out on the main, and it's, like, a serious thing.

So we, we, we, we go around the corner with this engine, and we're trying to find this other engine, but we gotta go slow because if we turn the corner and this thing is coming back at us, that's a problem, too. So we sneak around the corner, and we go about a mile and a half, and the fucking engine is sitting at the signal, at a stop signal.

The signal's red. I swear to God, if that signal was green, it would've kept going. But it was just sitting. It was sitting at the signal, and I said, "Holy shit." So we go, we g- we go and we g- we couple up and we, and we get this engine, and we pull it back. And nobo- it never left the yard. It, we never heard an emergency, emergency, emergency.

And all week, every time he told me to touch that engine, I said, "I ain't fucking with that 922."

But , but the moral, and the moral of the story is we all forget shit. Don't judge me.

Michael: Really damn funny. That's pretty- Had you listened to that since, uh, since the Slam? No. Did you-

Carey: No.

Michael: Really?

Carey: No, I, I, that was my first time hearing it. It's pretty funny. And pretty damn accurate. Pretty accurate.

Michael: Had you told that story a million times, Kerry?

Carey: Actually, that was my first time telling it.

Michael: No

Carey: shit.

Well, no, I, I think I told it, I told it to coworkers before, but no, maybe I, I've told it once or twice.

Michael: I love the way that you set up the beginning, where you're like, "You know, I'm getting older, I'm forgetting shit. I forget my keys, I forget my wallet." And then when you- Right ... get to losing the train, you're like, "This is not my keys or my wallet."

Like, I love that.

Carey: Right, right, right. Yeah.

Michael: So you're retired now, right?

Carey: Correct.

Michael: Are you worried about this story leaving the, leaving the yard?

Carey: Absolutely not. We got s- we got stories worse than that. But, uh, absolutely not. And, uh, and w- what are they gonna do, fire me?

Michael: Boy, I'm tempted to ask you about the stories worse than that, but I respect you too much.

Carey: Like, like stories, like when, when they're, when they're that old, it's l- it's like folklore. You know what I mean? And, uh- Okay ... there's some, there's some pretty wild stories on the railroad.

Michael: How, how many years did you work with SEPTA?

Carey: 36. Th-

Michael: okay. Were you working in the yard the whole time, or were you in different parts of SEPTA?

Carey: Uh, different parts. Uh, uh, conducting, you would conduct trains and you would be on all the different lines, the, uh, surrounding, uh, suburbs, bringing- Mm-hmm ... bringing, uh, rush hour people in town. But then once you, uh, you know, climbed the ladder a little bit, then you would be, uh, you could work in the yard, which was, uh, a softer schedule.

Like, you would just, more downtime. You'd move a couple trains around for the crews to take out, and you sit around and watch TV and wait for something else to do. But it was kinda like luxury compared to bouncing around between the lines as a conductor.

Michael: Except for when you lose a damn train. That's, that's- That's, that's a rough day.

That is a hell of a day.

Carey: Absolutely.

Michael: I think it would be interesting, do you mind d- sharing the story about how we know each other, and there- therefore, how you ended up at the Story Slam? I'm not even sure how much of it you might remember.

Carey: Sure. Um, well, my girlfriend, Jessica, Jessica Silverman, introduced me to you.

And you guys have history. And, uh, I met, I met you through Jessica.

Michael: So do you know how I met Jessica?

Carey: Her brother's girlfriend.

Michael: Exactly, yeah. My

Carey: ex-wife- And you hooked up with her brother- Was her- Yeah, you hooked up- Yes ... with her brother's girlfriend, and you guys got married.

Michael: Yep, exactly. So that's how we got to know each other.

So, um, I'm gonna take a wild guess that you did not walk in planning to tell any story, let alone this story.

Carey: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But, uh, then when they asked if anybody wanted to come up, and I was thinking about some of the things that, that, that went on on the railroad, I was like, "Oh, they, they'd love to hear this."

And, uh, that's what made me put my name on the bunch. I, I didn't think I was gonna get called. You know, I'm, I'm having a few drinks and I'm talking to people and I'm having a great time and they call my name and I'm like, "Oh shit, this is really gonna happen." And I went up there and I was nervous at first, you know what I mean?

But then as I started telling the story, I just relaxed and it just, you know, it just kinda- Oh, it flowed ... kinda came off pretty well.

Michael: It came off great.

Carey: It came-

Michael: It-

Carey: Yeah, it came off pretty well.

Michael: And man, the audience loved it. People were... I th- you were the l- I think you were the last story of the night, right?

Carey: Yeah, I was the last guy. Yeah. That's why I didn't think I was gonna get called. And I'm just having a good time, and then, then all of a sudden, boom, you're put on the spot. I'm like, "Oh, damn, this is gonna happen."

Michael: Well, you had-

Carey: It was pretty, it was pretty cool ...

Michael: and the audience was loving it. Actually, I don't, I think I told my team this story, but I gotta tell you.

So we'd been there for a while, and I was talking to people during intermission, and I, you know, I forgot to take a nature break. And I'm sitting there before the last story, and I'm like, "I wonder if I have time to run to the bathroom," and I didn't. And then you started telling your story, and then I'm like, "I really gotta go."

And, and I was thinking about starting to go to the bathroom, and I'm like, "Oh, no, this motherfucker loves to train. I gotta hear what the hell happened." And, and so I'm just, like, standing there and st- and, and enjoying the hell of it. And I think when you finished, I'm like, vroom, I ran right out to the, to the loo.

But, you know- Yeah. Right,

Carey: right ...

Michael: I, I mean, it was a, it was a story that overcame a lot of challenges. How's that? Like, I was... It was, uh- Yeah ... it was really, really good, man. It was so fun. So one of the things we do at the Story Slam, and obviously you know this, is when you filled out the form to put your name in the hat, you have to pick a charity who would benefit if you win.

So you chose Goodwill, and I'm just kinda curious, like, why you chose Goodwill. Is that, uh, an organization that you've interacted with? Or just curious how that came up for you.

Carey: Uh, you know, uh, Jesse had put down Goodwill, uh, but, uh, I had really wanted to put down Red Cross. But they, they kinda go hand-in-hand.

And, uh, I went through a period in my life, uh, wh- where my apartment, uh, burned down. I came home from work and my apartment was burnt to the ground and I lost everything I had. Oh. And it was a Red Cross, uh, a Red Cross, uh, mobile office out in front of the place, and I went and sat in there, and I'm in tears 'cause I lost everything.

Oh,

yeah. And,

you know, they gave me, they gave me a voucher to buy a bed, they gave me a voucher to buy clothes, and I just remember in tears saying, "I have no way to pay it back. I don't have any money." And, you know, and they were just, they were saying, "This is free," and, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, ever since then, I've kinda donated to the Red

Michael: Cross.

Yeah. That, I do not, but I... Makes sense to me. That is, um, you know, I know they do that work, but I've f- I've not known anyone who was in a situation where they needed it. I'm really sorry to hear about your apartment. Mm-hmm. That's,

Carey: yeah. Yeah. I lost everything. All I had was the clothes on my back, and they supplied me with clothes and a bed and, you know.

Michael: Um-

Carey: A- a- you know, it worked out for the good.

Michael: I gotta say, fire, fire is a very scary thing, particularly when, you know, apartment life. You can't control how other people behave. You can't control all the things that happen. I'm glad they were there for you. That's really-

Carey: Yeah ...

Michael: really good. I'm also interested, because you were dragged by someone from the nonprofit world to our little nonprofit storytelling event, like, what did you think?

Like, it sounds like you were having a good time, but overall, what did you think?

Carey: I thought it was, I thought it was pretty awesome. Um, and I didn't even know, like, like stuff went on like that. Like, when you think of open mic, you think of poems and things like that, but this right here was like, like a totally different twist like that you could relate to on so many different levels no matter who it was or whose story it was or what it was about.

It was just, it was just all so interesting, and I, I think it was an ingenious idea, whoever came up with this

Michael: Well, one of my coworkers originally pitched it, and it was an easy thing to say yes to, and it's been a great ride. Yeah, it's- We've been doing it since- Yeah, it's pretty- ... 2018 ... it,

Carey: it's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's pretty

Michael: cool. Good. I'm, I'm, uh, I knew you would tell me nothing but truth 'cause you never share anything with me beside your truth, so I appreciate that and I know you really mean it. Absolutely. So I know you were the last story of the night, but, um, did you end up with a lot of people coming up to you afterwards to ask you questions and talk to you about it?

Carey: Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of... It w- yeah, they did. They would come up and ask me, you know, the little things like, "How long, how long did you work for 'em?" And, "Did that ever happen before?" And, and yeah, it was pretty interesting. And I g- I got to meet a lot of people. It was very good time, very good night.

Michael: That's awesome.

It's clear, speaking of sharing your truth, that you're not afraid to talk about things with SEPTA. Um, as a, as a 36-year retired SEPTA employee, I'd be really interested, 'cause I spend a lot of time talking to a lot of people that are involved in city planning and, you know, a lot of different aspects of how people either get around or just, uh, get things done in the city of Philadelphia.

What, what do you think of our transit agency?

Carey: Oh, I think our transit agency is, uh, like it's not until you travel and, uh, you see how limited, uh, other p- other states' and countries', uh, transit, how limited it really is. And i- and at that point, you realize like, you know, how much of a good thing we do have.

Like you can walk out your door and basically get almost any- anywhere in the tri-state area, you know, by public transportation, and I think that's really, uh, that's really a plus. Can't find it everywhere.

Michael: That's very true. I will say, I, I mentioned, we were talking about this a little bit before, but you know, I'm, I'm in Berlin for the summer.

Whew, the transit in Berlin makes SEPTA look like, um, I don't know, look like, look like an old three-gear bicycle sometimes. Like it, you know, there's a train- Yeah ... every five minutes or less. It's pretty wild. Um-

Carey: I've, I've e- I've experienced the Berlin transit system.

Michael: It's intense.

Carey: Yeah, I've been, yeah, I've, I've been there.

And, uh, and also it's like, uh, have you been on a trams where it's like a buddy system where you buy your thing and you don't have to show it to anybody, but then these guys come in periodically in black and yellow, and they pick out a couple people, and you better provide a ticket or they're calling the police?

Like, have you, have you experienced this yet?

Michael: My wife Robin was taking a train 'cause ... So I have experienced that, not on this trip and not in Berlin. I think it was somewhere else in Germany using transit- Mm-hmm ... and someone came on and checked the ticket, and we had tickets. Um, but yeah- Right ... it is this, it is a total honor system.

Right. And actually, now that it's the 1st of July, we just bought our first month-long ticket, so we were able to get for 113 euros, which is not free, about a, probably about 125 bucks. We got a ticket where we can use the transit all the time for the whole month. And we can even- That's awesome ... get, get around most of Germany with that, um, is my understanding.

Yeah. Can't use the intercontinental trains. Those we'd still need a ticket for, but we could get to other cities- Mm-hmm ... for 113 euros, which is a trip. But yeah- Yeah, that, that, the- ... Robin was on the, Robin was on the train and, and they did come and check tickets ... inter- inter-transit,

Carey: that other inter-transit train, that is actually that Eurostar thing, right?

Michael: Um, so the ICE trains or the ICE trains, I think it's Intercontinental Europe, so that might be Eurostar. And I'm not sure if

Carey: there's- Yeah, that's, that's, that's kinda like Europe's equivalent to Amtrak. Like, you got- Uh ... your basic, uh, you got your transit system in Berlin, and then you have the, uh, suburban things, and that's, that's kinda like what that is.

Michael: Yeah. I'm still learning 'cause there's ... It's like they've got every flavor of transit here so far. There's the- Sure do ... just in the city you've got a lot of buses. There's surface- Mm-hmm ... trams. There's U-Bahn, which is under- underground and sometimes above ground rail. Um, which is kinda like, you know, Market-Frankford and, uh- Yeah

Broad Street Line.

Carey: And the trams are all over the place. They're pretty convenient. I

Michael: haven't ridden one yet. Um, I've mainly been using, our apartment is close to an U-Bahn stop with two different trains, so we've mostly been using that. I've done the trains between cities on a previous trip. I don't, I haven't done the ICE, the intercontinental stuff yet.

I do believe that- Yeah ... somehow that network works, works all together. So I'm looking forward to doing some of that, but it hasn't happened just yet. But-

Carey: Europe has a huge, uh, rail system. Uh, me and Jessie went to London, and I went, one day while she had class, I went from London to Under the T- the Thames River

Michael: Yep

Carey: Up into Paris.

And then from Paris, I went across France and went to Normandy Beach. It was awesome.

Michael: That's amazing.

Carey: Transferred, like, about three or four times, and there I was on Normandy Beach, on, uh, on, uh, Omaha Beach.

Michael: It's... I, I have to say, it's, it is pretty wild. Now, there is a huge advantage that Europe has, which is it's dense.

It's sm- you know, the distances are much shorter, so.

Carey: Yeah.

Michael: I mean, it's, Europe as a whole is not tiny. Um, but the distance between major cities is much, it's much more like the East Coast. It's much more like the Mid-Atlantic- Yeah ... um, but the whole region. Yeah. So- It's

Carey: pretty condensed.

Michael: Yeah. Um, but I still, I still do wish that we had a more transit-oriented society in the US.

So- Yeah ... you know, that's, it's that thing where if you don't... Like, that $113 ticket, 113 euro ticket. Like, that makes the train much more usable for everybody all the time. Mm-hmm. And then you have more ridership- Yeah ... which makes the system work better, which, you know, and I, I feel like sometimes in Philadelphia, 'cause I grew up in Chicago where the, there was more trains and more buses.

And, um- Mm-hmm ... I feel like in Philly, I j- I just wish that... I know the state is a big problem for us in terms of that sort of, that funding- Yeah ... death spiral about, like, we keep ending up with less service, and then we end up with less riders, and then we end up with less service. And if we just put in some money, I feel like we could turn that spiral in the other direction.

Um- Right.

Carey: Right ...

Michael: and get more people on the trains. 'Cause they're great. They're great. When they run, they're great.

Carey: Oh, absolutely

Michael: Um, now you guys, you said you got a pool. I think you guys moved to the suburbs, right?

Carey: Yeah, we moved to Media.

Michael: So are you still-

Carey: Media, just outside of Philadelphia ...

Michael: are you still using SEPTA out there?

Or is it mostly cars now?

Carey: Uh, actually, no, actually, yes. Uh, there's a large, uh, new train station called Wawa. The Wawa train station is five minutes from the house, so it's pretty convenient to drive to Wawa station, park the car there, and take the train in town. Pretty convenient.

Michael: That's awesome. Now-

Carey: And it's a free ride.

It's a free ride for me.

Michael: I was gonna ask, 'cause I don't, you're not old enough for the, um, senior free ride pass, are you?

Carey: I am. I am.

Michael: Seriously?

Carey: But I, I, I, yeah, I get the free ride pass from, uh, from being retired from SEPTA. Okay. So I ride free any bus, trolley, train that I w- that I want for free.

Michael: But it's not the, isn't it once you hit senior citizen age or Social Security age or something like that?

Can't even non-SEPTA employees get that pass for SEPTA as well?

Carey: It's a Medicare card. Y- you get that. So that, that, that would've covered me, too. If I wasn't an employee, yes.

Michael: But you can use the train whenever you want 'cause you put in 36 years, and you should use the damn train whenever you want.

Carey: Absolutely. I also put in 15 years at American Airlines, and I fly free also.

Michael: My God, you can get anywhere. That's amazing.

Carey: I, I, I w- I worked, I worked part-time for, for American Airlines, and, um, I retired from there, and I fly free also.

Michael: Oh, that's-

Carey: So now my next job, my next job, I'm gonna work somebody's front desk either at a Marriott or a Hilton-

and then I'll have lodging for, like, $79 a night. Then I'll have the, when I get the, when I get the front desk at the Hilton or Marriott, then I'll have the serious trifecta.

Michael: Any other thoughts about transit, about story slams, about any crazy stuff like that before we kinda wrap up the conversation and call it an afternoon?

Carey: I would like to let everybody out there that listened to me losing the engine- ... that that doesn't even scrape the surface of, of some of the things that, you know, of the stories that I could tell from that railroad.

Michael: Well, we're gonna have to get you to bring Jessica back. We're, we're planning the next Story Slam same place, Triple Bottom Brewing.

We're planning to do this on, uh, Tuesday, November 17th, so put it down in your calendar for me.

Carey: I would love, I would love to tell the story of how I met Jessica, because I met Jessica

Michael: on the train. Really?

Carey: I would love to tell that story, yeah.

Michael: Well...

Carey: And just to give you just a scrape of the surface-

Michael: Yeah

Carey: she would, she would ride in my car. Uh, she would get on at Wilmington, and when I saw her I thought she was the most beautiful thing ever. And she was in a coffee shop, and I hand the coffee shop guy $40 and says, "Hey, listen." This is on a Monday. I said, "For the rest of the week her money's no good. Here, take this."

Michael: Nice. "

Carey: Whatever she wants. Just don't tell her who did it. Just don't tell her who it is." So she was all week long, she's wondering like, "Who the fuck? What the hell?" And then this woman, this woman tries to jump on a moving train and she misses and cracks her head wide open. Oh. So as I'm there and I'm calling the police and I can hear the sirens coming and I'm talking to the lady and this, that, and the other, uh, this is like at the end of the week.

And, uh, this so this is like Friday. So I give the guy the money Monday and I, this is like Friday. So, uh, when the m- when, when the medics com- par- when the paramedics come take her away and this, that, and the other, and, um, and we go in town and I'm talking to Jesse on the way in. They were like, "Wow, you handled that really great.

Do they train you guys?" This, that, and the other. So then when Jesse's getting off the train I ask her, you know, can I walk her to work, and she says yes. And we're walking to work, and then as I get to her job, then, you know, she's like, "Hey, you know, somebody's fucking, fucking buying me breakfast every fucking day."

And then I let her, I let her know it was me, and we've been together ever since.

Michael: Oh, that's so awesome. That is a g- so let's, the theme that we've come to for the next Slam i- where is role model, so like R-O-L-E role model. But one of the things that- Uh-huh ... I'm really hoping that people will do is that they'll play with all the different possible meanings of that, or like even, you know, roll like R-O-L-L.

So I think another train story Works out perfect. A train story where you think she's the most beautiful thing ever. You've got both role and model in there, my friend. You are set

Carey: And mine's is gonna, mine's is gonna be rolled up, like I rolled up on her.

Michael: There you go. There you- I love it. Put it in the calendar.

We're gonna have to get you out to the next Slam for sure and let you tell that whole story.

Carey: Cool. Had a, had a good time, Mike.

Michael: Good. Well, I had a good time- Yeah ... chatting with you. I really appreciate you coming onto the podcast with me.

Carey: Hey, man. I wish you, I wish you the best in Germany, man. And, um, love you guys, and, um, try a Meister Burger.

Michael: Meister Burger's up. That's next at maybe the, maybe dinner tonight. Who knows? All right, my friend. Thank you so much.

Carey: Have a good one, Mike. All right.

Michael: All right. Take it easy, brother. All right. You too. All right. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversation with Kerry as much as I did, and I hope you will also put November 17th on your calendars for the next edition of the Slam. We're gonna go back to Triple Bottom Brewing. Tuesday night as always, so November 17th's a Tuesday.

It's the 15th edition. The theme officially will be role model, and I really do wanna hear stories where people play around with different meanings, homonyms. I mean, absolutely come and talk to us about someone that you admire or look up to. But, uh, you know, who knows? Like, for the graphics, I'm kind of hoping that we might do something with, like, a wax model of a sushi roll so it's literally a model roll or role model.

It's a little cheesy, I know, um, or fishy. Uh, but I've also been thinking about maybe we could play around with the model from the '70s that, uh, my friends used to have as a kid. It was called The Invisible Man, so you could see all of his organs. I loved that one. But I'm sure someone out there has some other ideas, and they're probably better, so please reach out to me.

I really do love hearing from listeners. You can find me, um, and Mission Story Slam at our website, which is missionstoryslam.org. We're also all over LinkedIn and Instagram and the socials. So while you're surfing around, please don't forget, it does truly help if you rate and review the podcast. I will see you on November 17th at Triple Bottom.

We're gonna have the Energy Co-op returning as sponsors, and then The Philadelphia Citizen will continue being our media partner. This episode of the Mission Story Slam podcast was edited by Dave Land, and it's brought to you by PWP Video. We are video with a mission. You can find us at pwpvideo.com. So till the next episode, I plan to remain in Berlin, and I plan to remain Michael Schweisheimer, and I look forward to sharing the next story behind the story with you soon